Захранване с месни пюрета

Аз честно казано смисъл от тези изследвания не виждам, конкретно за хемоглобина, масово педиатрите не спазват таблицата за възраст по месеци, а прилагат границите за вързстни, което е лудост. От там заключение анемия - пиене на лекарства, тъпчене с месо и яйца и т.н. Дори да е нисък, не си правят труда да проверят за таласемия. И за капак, разпространяват градската легенда за спанака. В крайна сметка имаме здрави деца с грешна диагноза и ошашавени майки, какъв е смисълът?

Не случайно на 6 мес. и на 1г. на детето е въведено да се изследва периферна кръв.Доказано е,че към шестият месец депата на желязото в организма на бебето се изчерпват и затова е необходимо да се внася чрез включване на зеленчуци,месо към храната.Късното захранване също крие рискове.И как ако до годинката не си захранил бебето с месо,зърнена глутенова храна ще се премине към смесено хранене?Ще го храните още с каши и мляко ли?Нали детето трябва да свиква и с нови вкусове.
Дъщеря ми е на 6мес. и половина и вече давам през ден месно-зеленчуково пюре.
Режима на хранене е през 3часа и половина и включва:
Сутрин-мляко
-мляко+плодово пюре1/2 кафена чашка за десерт
-зеленчуково или месно-зеленчуково пюре
-каша+плодово пюре1/2 кафена чашка за десерт
Вечер-мляко
Въздържам се от жълтък все още.А в края на месеца ще и предложа за второто хранене попара/пасирана,съобразно възрастта и/.
Всяка майка сама решава кое и как.Но все пак е желателно да се съобразява с общоприетите стандарти.Те все пак са резултат на сериозни медицински проучвания,а не плод на едностранчив и моментен личен опит.

Защо преувеличаваш? Кой тук е написал годинка? Говорим за въвеждане на 8-9 месеца.


Общоприетите стандарти НЕ препоръчват месо на 6 месеца. Препоръчват тогава тепърва да се започне захранването със плодови, зеленчукови и безглутенови храни. И именно това казваме, че трябва да се съобразяваме с тях, защото са на база изследвания.

Обобщавам мнения на лекари, базирани на дългогодишен опит и практика! Имам достатъчно познати лекари в обкръжението си и в семейството си и съм виждала много такива майки-многознайки, които в старанието си да покажат че са по-компетентни от лекарите правят грешка след грешка в отглеждането на децата си и пълнят чакалните пред кабинетите! А относно изследванията всеки може да ги откаже ако сметне, че са излишни и много се радвам, че на твоето дете резултатите са перфектни, но не при всички е така, повярвай ми!

Тези лекари съвсем скоро ще бъдат насила принудени да се запознаят с резултатите от ранното захранване. И ще бъдат задължени да препоръчват късно.
Това, което пишем в тамата не е наше мнение, а препоръки на световните здравни организации, малко останаха педиатри, които да си позволяват да не ги спазват, за щастие.

Явно не само малко четеш, но и не осмисляш това, което прочиташ! Вече писах, че не давам съвети, а изразявам становище, всяка майка да си гледа детето както иска, това се отнася и за теб разбира се!

И аз да добавя,че и аз се замислих като стане на 7 мес да дам пюре с месо,но се отказах като видях етикета за деца от 8 месечна възраст.Тук в Канада въобще не толерират ранното захранване и ввторият си син го гледам по тяхната система/първият по БГ,захранен рано,рано с всичко и впоследствие развил атопичен дерматит,ларингит и кои знае още какви гадости/Не знам има ли връзка,но дори и шанса да е 0,001%,предпочитам да го спестя за себе си и втория си син И наистина всяка майка да си гледа децата както иска,аз две и по различен начин ,но след като търсиш мнение нали не очакваш 100%подкрепа.

Темата ми стана много интересна.
За някои може да е изненада, но наистина все повече източници препоръчват въвеждане на месо като първа или между първите  храни-преди тези, които досега смятахме за препоръчителни като първи.

Рових, рових, и се спрях, след като стигнах до това:

http://www.wholesomebabyfood.com/solids2.htm
We show age-ranges for different baby foods. We have researched and compiled these charts from various medical authorities such as private pediatricians, the AAP, the AAFP, and the WHO.

http://www.wholesomebabyfood.com/solidfood6to8montholdbaby.htm
PROTEIN
Once your baby has reached 8 months old, try offering tofu finger cubes dusted with Cheerio “dust” or other cereal “dust”. Many pediatricians are now recommending Meats as first foods due to the Iron content - ask your pediatrician.
http://www.kellymom.com/nutrition/solids/first-foods.html

In what order should I introduce foods?
According to the American Academy of Pediatrics Committee on Nutrition, the order in which other foods are added to your baby's diet is not that important as long as baby's breastmilk intake is adequate. Keep in mind that the recommendations here are aimed at babies starting solids at around 6 months or later - babies starting solids earlier are much more prone to food allergies.
Cereal is not at all necessary, particularly the baby cereals. Regular (whole grain) oatmeal is more nutritious for your baby. Many doctors recommend iron-fortified rice cereal as baby's first food because it is less likely to cause an allergic reaction and because most babies sometime after the 6th month require an additional iron source other than mother's milk. If your baby starts solids around 6 months or later, there is much less chance of allergic reaction to foods. It's debatable whether healthy breastfed babies need the extra iron (you can get baby's iron levels checked if you're worried about this). In addition, infants need lots of protein and cereal has a low protein-calorie ratio (even lower when mixed with water or fruit). Many experts (including LLL) suggest giving meat or other foods naturally rich in iron instead of foods with added iron. For more information on iron, see Is Iron-Supplementation Necessary?
Trivia: Ever wonder why cereal mixed with breastmilk doesn't stay thick? Breastmilk contains amylase, which is an enzyme that digests carbohydrates. The longer the mixture sits, the thinner it will get!
For breastfed babies, some nutrition experts suggest skipping the carbohydrates (cereal) as a first food, since breastmilk is already high in carbohydrates, and concentrating on meat or other protein sources. Here is some great info from LLL on meats as one of baby's first foods: Introducing Complementary Foods. This article also discusses starting solids early for a baby whose working mom is having problems pumping enough milk. This study also discusses meat as a first food.
http://www.llli.org/llleaderweb/LV/LVDec99Jan00p130.html
коментира се въвеждането на месо като първа/сред първите храни

http://www.nutrition.org/cgi/content/full/130/2/358S

http://life.familyeducation.com/baby/foods/44284.html
By age six to eight months, a baby's digestive tract is more mature, and you can begin to introduce more types of foods. While continuing to give breast milk or formula, increase iron-fortified cereal to 4 tablespoons or more daily. Increase strained vegetables to 2 tablespoons or more per day, and increase strained fruits to 2 tablespoons or more per day. You can now start to offer plain strained meats such as chicken, beef, turkey, veal, lamb, or egg yolks (no egg whites, as there is a high chance of allergic reactions in infants younger than twelve months old). Offer ½ to 1 tablespoon one to two times daily. You can also begin to offer 2 to 4 ounces of 100 percent fruit juices. Start by mixing one part juice with two parts water, and offer it in a cup.
ALERT! If using commercially prepared baby food, do not use vegetables with meat because it contains little meat and less protein and iron than jars with plain meat. If your baby doesn't like plain meat, mix it with a vegetable that they already like as you offer it.
http://www.cps.ca/caringforkids/pregnancy&babies/Feeding.htm
Introducing solid foods
At 6 months, most babies cannot get everything they need from breast milk or formula alone. Though you can continue to breastfeed until your baby is 2 years and beyond, at 6 months you’ll start to introduce your baby to other foods. Your baby is ready to start other foods when he:
•   Seems hungry earlier than usual.
•   Can sit up without support, and has good control of his neck muscles.
•   Holds food in his mouth without pushing it out on his tongue right away.
•   Shows interest in food when others are eating, and opens his mouth when he sees food coming his way.
•   Can let you know he doesn’t want food by leaning back or turning his head away.
There are many ways to introduce solid food. The first foods usually vary from culture to culture and from family to family. 
Start with foods that contain iron, which babies need for many different aspects of their development. It’s common to start with a single grain, iron-fortified infant cereal such as rice or barley. Meat, poultry, cooked egg yolk and well cooked legumes (beans, lentils, chick peas) are also good sources of iron.
http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/fn-an/pubs/infant-nourrisson/nut_infant_n … on_term_6-eng.php
(ii) First foods. During the transition to solid foods, it is vital that infants continue to ingest an adequate volume of breast milk or formula. Introduction of solid foods should be based on the physiologic and developmental maturity of the infant in combination with our understanding of nutrient requirements for the rapidly growing infant. Iron-containing foods are recommended as the first foods. The use of single foods makes it easier to identify the cause of an allergic reaction, were it to occur. In Canada, the most commonly used first food is iron-fortified infant cereal. Meat and alternatives are iron-containing foods that can also be introduced at this stage. The foods in this group include meats, fish, poultry, cooked egg yolks, and alternatives such as well-cooked legumes and tofu. Iron from meat sources is better absorbed than iron from non-meat sources.

http://www.homemade-baby-food-recipes.com/babys-first-foods.html
Step 1
Pediatricians often recommend starting with a single grain cereal, like baby rice, because it is gluten free and considered easy to digest. However... there ARE alternatives and many medical professionals are beginning to acknowledge the value of fruits, veggies... or even meat... as suitable first foods.


http://www.homemade-baby-food-recipes.com/best-first-food-for-baby.html
New research has discovered that the addition of very finely ground meat to a baby's diet is extremely effective in boosting iron levels and may even be better than cereal

http://www.homemade-baby-food-recipes.com/introduce-meat-to-baby.html
When can my baby eat meat?
Traditionally, medical professionals have recommended introducing meat to baby from around 7 months of age. Chicken/turkey is usually introduced first and red meats next.
However, recent research has suggested that meat should be introduced as one of the first - or even THE first - complementary foods for babies, generally from 6 months of age. This is true for breastfed babies in particular.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16456417
Meat as a first complementary food for breastfed infants: feasibility and impact on zinc intake and status

http://www.healthychild.net/NutritionAction.php?article_id=304
What to Introduce and When
Once a baby is ready to start eating solid food, the nutrient most health professionals are concerned about is iron. For years, iron-fortified infant cereal has been babies’ standard “first food.” Today, with introduction of cereal not recommended until six months, many parents are instructed to use strained or finely ground meat as the first food. The iron and zinc in meat are better absorbed than that in the cereal, and it is rare for any allergic reactions to occur. However, some families may not be comfortable starting with meat. For these families, iron-fortified infant cereal may be the best choice.
Most authorities recommend beginning with rice cereal, as it is the least allergenic grain product. This is followed by oatmeal, barley, and finally wheat. Other foods, such as meat, vegetables, and fruits are given in progression. Egg yolks, cheese, and yogurt can be introduced around eight months of age. Whole milk and whole eggs can be introduced around 12 months of age.
http://www.breastfeeding.com/all_about/all_about_solids.html
The best source of iron for the baby 5 or 6 months of age is meat. Infant cereal has iron, but it is poorly absorbed and may cause the baby to be constipated.

http://www.healthyalberta.com/HealthyEating/529.htm
By about six months of age, your baby will be ready to try solid foods:
……
Start with iron-fortified infant cereals (such as rice, barley, oats and wheat) or meat and alternatives. Always feed infant cereal from a spoon, not in a bottle.

http://www.answers.com/topic/baby-food
In Canada, the most commonly used first food is iron-fortified infant cereal. Meat and alternatives are iron-containing foods that can also be introduced at this stage. The foods in this group include meats, fish, poultry, cooked egg yolks, and alternatives such as well-cooked legumes and tofu. Iron from meat sources is better absorbed than iron from non-meat sources

http://pediatrics.about.com/cs/breastfeeding/a/starting_slds_2.htm
The easiest way to get extra iron for your baby 5 or 6 months of age is by giving him meat. Infant cereal has iron, but it is poorly absorbed and may cause the baby to be constipated.

http://aces.nmsu.edu/pubs/_e/E-135.pdf
6 to 8 months
First:
Strained, pureed, or mashed
cooked vegetables.
Strained or mashed soft fruits.
Soft fruits do not have to be cooked.
Later:
• Strained meat; cooked, mashed
dry beans; cooked, finely chopped
chicken; cooked,boned fish.

http://www.babyfoodchart.com/
Six to Nine Months
Beginning at six months, the amount of formula and breastmilk should hold steady as you introduce solids. Introduce the solid foods slowly and let your child eat as much as she wants at mealtimes. She is still getting the bulk of her nutrition from milk and formula at this stage, but increasingly she is gaining essential vitamins and nutrients from the solid food. All told, she should have:
•   Breastmilk or formula (24-34 oz.)
•   Half cup of iron-fortified baby cereal per day
•   Soft mashed, ripe or soft-cooked fruits or veggies
•   Strained meats
http://montrealfamilies.ca.sslpowered.com/articles/jun_feature6.htm
The Canadian Pediatric Society says that at 6 months, a baby’s digestive system is ready for more than just milk. So at this age, solid foods can be introduced alongside breast milk or formula.
However, there’s no need to fill your shopping cart with dozens of jars and boxes of baby food, says pediatrician Dr. Janet Grabowski. “Go slow, there’s no big rush,” she notes.
Dr. Grabowski suggests parents begin with iron-fortified cereals because a baby’s iron levels start to drop at this age. Parents can start with rice cereal (which is unlikely to provoke an allergic reaction) for about two weeks before switching to other single grain cereals, such as oats or barley. Introduce one new type per week. 
Because meat also contains iron, Health Canada recommends adding this to baby’s diet after the cereal. 
http://www.baby-health.net/articles/32.html
7 to 8 months
meat and meat alternates strained meats: beef, liver, turkey alternates chicken, egg yolks. cooked dried beans (put through a sieve to remove
skins), (no gravy nor salt); easily mashed vegetables and fruits.

http://www.llli.org/llleaderweb/LV/LVDec…
Meat provides additional protein, zinc, B-vitamins, and other nutrients which may be in short supply when the decrease in breast milk occurs. A recent study from Sweden suggests that when infants are given substantial amounts of cereal, it may lead to low concentrations of zinc and reduced calcium absorption (Persson 1998). Dr. Nancy Krebs has shared preliminary results from a large infant growth study suggesting that breastfed infants who received pureed or strained meat as a primary weaning food beginning at four to five months, grow at a slightly faster rate. Dr. Krebs' premise is that inadequate protein or zinc from complementary foods may limit the growth of some breastfed infants during the weaning period. Both protein and zinc levels were consistently higher in the diets of the infants who received meat (Krebs 1998). Thus the custom of providing large amounts of cereal products and excluding meat products before seven months of age may not meet the nutritional needs of all breastfed infants.
Meat has also been recommended as an excellent source of iron in infancy. Heme iron (the form of iron found in meat) is better absorbed than iron from plant sources. In addition, the protein in meat helps the baby more easily absorb the iron from other foods. Two recent studies (Makrides 1998; Engelmann 1998) have examined iron status in breastfed infants who received meat earlier in the weaning period. These studies indicate that while there is not a measurable change in breastfed babies' iron stores when they receive an increased amount of meat (or iron), the levels of hemoglobin circulating in the blood stream do increase when babies receive meat as one of their first foods.

Знам, че някои ще се революционализират като го прочетат, но по същия начин други се революционализираха навремето, когато се заговори за късно захранване изобщо. 

Благодаря за обидите.  Оставам твърдо зад думите си. Аргументирано най-вече, за разлика от теб 

Блонди,какви каши ще ми препоръчаш?За сега ядем оризовата на Милупа. И за АМ 2ката нещо не ми е много ясно пробвах го но не ми харесва, че нещо не се разтваря добре.Докога да пие АМ 1ца?

Кашите на Милупа са безспорно най-добрите  След тях на Хумана също. Взимала съми Хип, но не се впечатлих кой знае колко. Слънчо са вкусни, но не са подходящи за захранване.
За АМ двойки и тройки - не е добра идея да оставиш детето на единица, трябва да смениш. Двойките са хубави по принцип, но пак си зависи от марката. Преди малко писах за тях:


Някои млека се разтварят по-трудно да, забелязала съм. Прахообразните мисля. Гранулираните са лесни. За другите аз процедирах така - сипвах водата (хладка или телесна Т°), отгоре нужното количество мерителни лъжички сухо мляко, затварям и друсам силно и ставаше  Въпросът беше да раздрусам веднага, ако изчакам ставаше на буци 

Благодаря ти Блонди!Ще опитам с АМ 2ката така.Да на прах е - хип пробиотик.До сегасме само с тази марка АМ и незнам дали мога да го сменя с друго.А каква е разликата между 1ца и 2ка?

АМ е адаптирано мляко, а 2-ката е преходно. Можеш да смениш, но не виждам  смисъл. Ако иде реч за разтварянето, то трябва просто да спазваш температурата...точно. И аз имах проблем с 2-та, но като започнах да спазвам стриктно инструкциите всичко се нареди. Млякото е хубаво.

Vivi, благодаря  не разбрах имаше ли в текста и за СЗО?
Това с 1-ва храна месо ми е направо  като се има предвид, че захранването трябва да е постепенно с по 1 вид нещо, това значи, че детето трябва да се захрани с чисто месо  другият момент е, че подобно хранене е протеинова диета - сваляне на кила  освен, ако не се меша с др. груши храни, но това значи скоростно захранване, което е абсурд. Може да не са ми правилни разсъжденията, не знам 
Вегетарианците сигурно са в потрес 


Това по моите разбирания е най-правилното:

"6 to 8 months
First:
Strained, pureed, or mashed
cooked vegetables.
Strained or mashed soft fruits.
Soft fruits do not have to be cooked.
Later:
• Strained meat; cooked, mashed
dry beans; cooked, finely chopped
chicken; cooked,boned fish."

Не е протеинова диета, защото бебето продължава основно да се храни с мляко.
Освен това, в текстовете някъде, имаше коментар, че при бебета, хранени с месо като първа храна, всъщност се наблюдава ускорен растеж в сравнение с тези, които са захранени първо с каша.
И да, ХИПП, например, имат пюрета от чисто месо. В крак са с новите тенденции, така да се каже.