Шокиращо масово самоубийство или убийство в Петрохан - какво знаем и какво липсва

Затова да заложим на хеликоптера.

Какъв точно необорим експерт е Гайдуркова, освен че е дъщеря на баща си? Да не е пътен инженер, че така му разбира на тунелното дело?

Девойката твърдеше, че 4 джипа са отивали към хижата.
Тези джипове първо, се движат в обратна посока. И второ, тя или СА ли беше, Ралица ли беше твърдеше, че единствения път след чешмата е към хижата, а то, както виждаме, не е вярно, има и друг път.

Какво стана с Деян, да не се е прострелял и той с пистолет и пушка?

Да, има и друг път.

Какво се правят на три и половина отричащите тунела, не са ли чували и виждали стотиците нарко-тунели между границите на Мексико и САЩ? Калушевата чета/Мексико- народе??

Канал да,но тунел?!?

Не ми казвайте, че сравнявате Ел Чапо с тая шушумига Калушев! 🤣

И профилът на Николай изчезна, но може просто да са ги заключили и да ги разглеждат от разследването, знам ли...

Като на Хамас тунелите в Газа може би🥸

Да му се не види, затова не правят тунела на креснеското дефиле толкова години. Скъп бил много. А за петрохански тунел пари има, нали!

А, никак не е проста тя. Имам чувството, че се прави на луда малко повече. Цялата информация за прерожденци, йерархия, тибетски практики и т.н. дойде от нея. А за педофилията от сина й. Интересно как са го намерили. Кой е подал информация за него.

Ако тунел е в смисъла на "канал" се разбира, иначе е абсурд.

Защо не. Не е задължително да минават тирове и няма нужда. Би могло да преминава всичко оттам - оръжия, забранени вещества, издирвани хора..

Може и товарен дрон да са използвали, хем е доста по-безшумен.

Някоя от вас дали е чел интервюто на Деян от 2013 за живота му с И. К.? Описва доста от собствена перспектива как е започнал да живее с него и за отношенията му с И.К.. Не споменава нищо специфично, но звучи силно зависим, отговаря остро и явно внимава какво говори. Деян живее с Калушев от 16-годишна възраст и в рамките на 11-те години живот с него (до 2013) не се е отделял за повече от 2 седмици. Също много от изказванията говорят за абсолютно доверие към Калушев, съзависимост и загуба на автономност.

Много е вероятно Деян да е бил в подобна ситуация като Валери, което самия Валери бегло намеква, но да е приемал случващото се. Валери също споменава, че е виждам и чужди голи снимки - много вероятно да са били на Деян.

Интервюто е много дълго и има много притеснителни елементи, ето ви няколко цитата (няколко мои замисли са включени в скоби):
"Can you tell us how it happened that you started living together? What happened during your
training or after that?
I was going through a very unpleasant stage in my life having had a lot of unpleasant,
unfulfilling and really tense and aggressive relationships with everyone around me. Also I was
in a state of melancholy because my grandfather had recently passed away and he was the
first person close to me whose funeral I witnessed. Besides this my parents had divorced and I
filled my days with non-stop news watching and a lot of time in front of the computer, as well
as listening to very loud music. I didn’t have any real friends, nor were there any that meant
well.

After I enlisted in the course I started going to lectures, we started going outdoors –
something that wasn’t foreign to me – but going in the mountains with good, close and calm
friends is different than going there in order to run away from your problems. And at a given
point it became clear that I wasn’t doing anything meaningful at home, so I moved in with him.
That’s it.

Were you two alone or were there others that Ivo was involved with? (involved mоже да се преведе като обвързан, сякаш не му харесва въпроса)
What do you mean by “involved”?

Others that Ivo was training or others with whom you went caving?
Yeah, there were others of course. There was this other guy in the course, but he had to leave
because it became clear he was too ambitious… There were several other people which made
a strong impression on me with whom we also went outdoors many times. One of them in
particular stood out quite a bit, but as a whole there were several people which were all very
decent.

OK, so please tell me – did Ivo’s approach or his attitude towards you change at all during all
these years and different periods that you went through? (Явно всички в живота му са го разочаровали, само И.К. не е. Звучи като пълна зависимост от 16-годишна възраст)
I’m glad you’re asking this question because frankly, the only unchanging thing in my life so far
has been exactly his attitude, the way he deals with things. His attitude towards everyone’s the
same. Generally I have specialized in being disappointed by people for vast amounts of time
and it really makes a huge difference to me that there’s one thing, one method that doesn’t
change despite everything else. And I really appreciate his attitude, because it’s not misguided
by petty games, emotional habituations, weaknesses or whatever else might be there that
everyone else – including me – is so proficient at.

During the years you have witnessed how Ivo reacts to others, have you ever seen him treat
somebody in a different manner? (Придава му магични способности и не най-малко обръща всичко казано му от И.К. като всъщност идващо от самия него)
No, I haven’t. For me this is… Bear in mind that for these 11 years the longest period we have
been apart was two weeks. When there’s traveling involved, we travel together – with some
exceptions when there were teachings. I have witnessed countless people and countless cases
of communication between himself and close friends, new acquaintances, friends, family.
What you will see is that his attitude is exactly the same towards all these very different kinds
of people. He doesn’t communicate with people as if he is communicating with other beings.
What happens is that anyone who communicates with him is in the end communicating with
himself – and through him – brings to the forefront his own upsides and downsides, or
whatever else might be beneficial. We can say that he is something like a mirror, or a kind of
magical trick, in a sense.

OK. Has it been hard to live with Ivo?
It has been hard, but I can’t say that in the real sense of the word, like hard hard. It has been
hard, because of my own laziness or because I would refuse to acknowledge my own
problems…

You mean that Ivo hasn’t been too bad? (Всички трудности сам си ги е измислял)
No, not at all. All hardships are self-fabricated – it’s self torture, so to speak. Life with him has
always been very easy, much easier than with all of the other people I have spent time with.
Life has been and still is exceptionally easy. All of the so-called hardships have really been just
a nonsense. They manifested because of my own delusions  – not because of some real
problem. Maybe I can answer in a more simple manner. Life hasn’t been hard, but it has been
complex.

Do you consider that Ivo goes beyond some boundaries, that he goes too far?
(Иво не преминавал граници, а той самия просто имал твърде много.)
No. But I do think that there’re many boundaries that shouldn’t be there. I too have a lot of
boundaries most of which are self imposed. Everything that he does depends entirely on the
collective karma, so you can’t really say that he crosses boundaries that he shouldn’t or that
he doesn’t cross boundaries that he should. This depends entirely on people and the
boundaries they have. The fact that he does cross boundaries simply means that there’re
more people that are OK with the fact. Otherwise it wouldn’t be possible. The phenomena, the
process and the perception are dependent on both parties. It’s co-dependent.

Could you say that you’re bored of your life with Ivo? (Пълно разочарование от живота, само не и от И.К. Наистина има късмет, че е жив, и че някак си се е отделил достатъчно настрани)
I’m totally disillusioned by life."

Публикувано е в сваления сайт skydharma.com. Въпреки че сайта е свален, негови стари версии могат да се намерят в интернет архива Wayback Machine. Интервюто на Илиев е в Library - Interviews - Interview with Deyan, about his life with Ivo и е на английски. Аз го намерих във версията на страницата от 25 април 2024.

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